Transcript: Sir Derek Barton, "The Invention of Chemical Reactions" (Part 2)
1989
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00:00:30 So we have then started off in peptide chemistry, and I think we're looking for worthwhile objectives.
00:00:42 If you've got any worthwhile objectives in peptide chemistry, we'd like to hear about them.
00:00:47 We think we can do them. I've got a list already, but a few more would be welcome.
00:00:52 And now we'll talk about something else, which is that you can use a radical-generating system
00:00:57 not just to make carbon radicals, you can obviously use it to make any kind of radical.
00:01:02 All that is required is that the element from which you wish to make the radical will give a derivative COO.
00:01:11 And nitrogen, of course, is the first one that comes to mind.
00:01:14 And Professor Newcomb, who by chance is in the chemistry department at College Station,
00:01:21 learnt about our chemistry in St. Andrews, where he was attending a meeting,
00:01:25 and he straightaway said he'd like to work on the amino radicals.
00:01:29 And I said, well, why don't you? Because we can't do everything.
00:01:32 But the amino radicals, again, will be very useful in peptide chemistry, as you'll see in a moment.
00:01:37 And so the preparation is perfectly straightforward. This is his paper.
00:01:43 You take, for example, this is the phosgene derivative that I told you about.
00:01:48 You just react with the amine, and there you have the compound that you want to use.
00:01:53 And if you find the reaction sluggish, then you can make a reaction of the amine with phosgene,
00:02:01 and then have the chlorocarbonate react with the sodium salt of the thiopyridone,
00:02:07 and you get the same ester in good yield.
00:02:09 These carbonates, they are often crystalline and easy to purify and handle.
00:02:16 They're more stable than the esters.
00:02:18 And what can you do with them? Well, this is the sort of thing you can do with them.
00:02:21 You can put them in the presence of a thiol.
00:02:23 And you make little thiol radicals when you irradiate.
00:02:26 And the thiol radicals set off the chain.
00:02:28 The chain proceeds like this.
00:02:31 You get this radical, loses CO2, gives the amino radical, which is what you're looking for.
00:02:36 And the amino radical is quenched by t-butyl thiol, and you go back to amine.
00:02:40 So you've gone round from where you began, back to where you began, in a rather complicated way,
00:02:45 so that that doesn't get you anywhere in synthetic chemistry.
00:02:48 But it shows you that the idea works, and that you can make nitrogen radicals.
00:02:52 Now, the sort of things you can do with them are either to use them in synthesis,
00:02:57 or you can use them in physical organic chemistry.
00:03:00 And I'm not a physical organic chemist,
00:03:03 though I have done that kind of work in my time,
00:03:06 but I like to encourage physical organic chemists.
00:03:09 And when you encourage them, you should encourage them to do things which are interesting,
00:03:14 and not encourage them to do things which are less interesting,
00:03:17 like the solvolysis of carbonium ion.
00:03:20 And so, this is the sort of thing you can do.
00:03:25 You make your nitrogen radical, and you can ask yourself,
00:03:29 how quickly does it open, like this, compared with its quenching by the thiol.
00:03:35 And so if you know the rate of this reaction, you can calculate the rate of that one.
00:03:41 It's the sort of thing that pre-radical chemists do.
00:03:46 And you can then use it now in the cyclizations to make this as preparative chemistry,
00:03:53 not physical organic.
00:03:56 This is more moving towards preparative chemistry,
00:03:59 in which we're now going to make the nitrogen radicals,
00:04:03 which are not very reactive chemically,
00:04:05 but now we're going to make them in the presence of protons.
00:04:08 And this is, of course, what one does in the classical Hoffman-Freitag-Loeffler reaction,
00:04:13 which is where you take a chloroamine or a bromoamine,
00:04:17 and you put it in a fairly concentrated sulfuric acid, and you photolyze it.
00:04:22 And this is an interesting reaction.
00:04:25 But it's not—the conditions for doing it are totally incompatible
00:04:29 with the kind of natural products I'm interested in.
00:04:32 So we want to have reactions which go under more or less neutral conditions.
00:04:36 They must be gentle acids.
00:04:37 And that's what Newcomb has now managed to do.
00:04:41 Here is the same derivative as before,
00:04:46 a carbamate, and you make the radical.
00:04:49 And the radical, he thinks, is in equilibrium with the closed form.
00:04:54 And so you can get from the reaction the quenching of this radical
00:04:58 or the quenching of that radical.
00:05:00 And that radical can be quenched by hydrogen atom transfer from thiol
00:05:05 or by reacting with the thiocarbonyl.
00:05:08 Now, we've got three different results here,
00:05:11 three out of a large number, of course.
00:05:13 If we do it under neutral conditions,
00:05:16 in the presence of 2-t-butyl thiol,
00:05:18 we get only this radical being quenched.
00:05:22 So that's the reason for thinking it's reversible.
00:05:25 Now, if we add trifluoroacetic acid,
00:05:29 what do we see?
00:05:31 We see that we get 100% of this.
00:05:34 So now, the protonated nitrogen radical,
00:05:38 the iminium radical cation,
00:05:39 is much more reactive towards the double bond,
00:05:42 and it has cyclized and done the transfer reaction
00:05:45 and got a good yield of this product.
00:05:47 Now, if we add thiol plus trifluoroacetic acid,
00:05:50 we again have the iminium radical cation.
00:05:53 Again, it will cyclize,
00:05:55 but now, of course, the radical will be quenched by hydrogen atom transfer,
00:05:58 and we get 100% of this.
00:06:00 I say 100%, that's the proportions.
00:06:03 The chemical yield in three cases is 80%, 90%, and 80%.
00:06:08 So that's interesting.
00:06:10 That's the first beginnings in doing something
00:06:13 synthetically significant with the iminium nitrogen radical.
00:06:20 And now, we have this same kind of carbamate,
00:06:28 and we're looking at various cyclization processes
00:06:31 in the presence of the trifluoroacetic acid,
00:06:34 or even acetic acid,
00:06:36 to protonate the nitrogen,
00:06:38 and the t-butyl thiol to reduce the radical.
00:06:41 And so, we can get this cyclization to 70% yield,
00:06:45 this one to 75% yield,
00:06:47 and this one down here is 60%.
00:06:50 But this is rather a nice one,
00:06:52 because you've done it twice,
00:06:53 that is to say, the nitrogen radical has cyclized onto there,
00:06:57 to give a five-membered ring,
00:06:59 and that's gone and cyclized onto there,
00:07:01 to give a second five-membered ring.
00:07:04 And since it's in one go, in one pot,
00:07:06 that's a rather significant synthesis of that ring system.
00:07:10 Now, you see I've used some letters here,
00:07:12 potoco, poto, poto.
00:07:16 Now, this is my name, and that's Professor Newcomb's name.
00:07:19 I think my name's better, but it's easy to understand.
00:07:22 But it means this residue.
00:07:28 Now, let's talk about organometallic chemistry very briefly.
00:07:33 I'm hoping to convert organometallic chemists
00:07:36 to using radical chemistry.
00:07:38 As you know, most organometallic compounds
00:07:41 are made by lithiums or green yards,
00:07:43 they're made by anion chemistry.
00:07:45 And it would be nice to make them by radical chemistry,
00:07:49 because it's more gentle,
00:07:50 and it's much easier to do radical chemistry
00:07:52 than anion chemistry.
00:07:53 In anion chemistry, you've got to do it
00:07:56 In anion chemistry, you've got to get everything thoroughly dry
00:07:59 and no oxygen.
00:08:01 In radical chemistry, you don't want any oxygen,
00:08:03 but you don't have to have things dry.
00:08:05 Water has no effect on radical reactions at all.
00:08:07 It's quite compatible with water.
00:08:09 And so here was the idea that we would
00:08:12 take compounds of this general kind,
00:08:14 where phenolthio N, M.
00:08:16 M is a metal or a metalloid.
00:08:19 And we are going to use the phenolthio radical
00:08:23 to set off this minor standard process
00:08:27 to make the R radical.
00:08:29 And the R radical is then going to react with M
00:08:31 and eliminate P-H-S dot.
00:08:34 So you're going to have one less P-H-S at this point.
00:08:37 Now this works marvelously for
00:08:40 some of the elements in group 5.
00:08:42 And it works particularly well for antimony.
00:08:45 So what happens then, for example,
00:08:47 is that you have antimony here for the M.
00:08:50 And when you do it in air,
00:08:52 in the presence of air, or let in oxygen afterwards,
00:08:55 this R-antimony bond is broken by the oxygen.
00:08:59 And there is a rearrangement and a reductive elimination
00:09:02 so that you get the alcohol,
00:09:04 eventually after hydrolysis,
00:09:06 plus 3-valent antimony.
00:09:08 Well, the details do not concern us.
00:09:10 As organic synthetic chemists,
00:09:12 it's the product we're going to put in the bottle that counts.
00:09:17 We can also make phosphates.
00:09:20 We can replace a carboxyl by a phosphonic acid residue.
00:09:25 And this is something very desirable
00:09:27 in medicinal chemistry and in agricultural chemistry,
00:09:31 because when you do that,
00:09:33 you often alter the biology in a meaningful way.
00:09:36 You have biology, but it's been changed
00:09:38 when you replace carboxyl by phosphonic acid.
00:09:41 And so here is the way we did it.
00:09:43 We now use the phenolthiol 3-times phosphorus compound,
00:09:48 and we don't get exactly the same result.
00:09:51 Now, because this carbon-phosphorus bond
00:09:54 is much more stable towards oxygen,
00:09:56 we get our oxygenated products.
00:09:58 This is the product that we get in each case.
00:10:01 And in each case, the yields are not as high as I would wish,
00:10:05 but they are certainly useful yields
00:10:07 to make the compound for the first time.
00:10:09 So now you can manipulate your leukotrienes
00:10:12 or your prostaglandins
00:10:14 and replace the terminal carboxyl by a phosphonic acid,
00:10:17 or do the same thing in the side chains of peptides,
00:10:20 and I'm sure you will get modified biological activity,
00:10:25 but it won't be zero biological activity,
00:10:27 which is the danger in all experiments
00:10:30 in medicinal chemistry and agricultural chemistry.
00:10:33 Zero activity is bad.
00:10:38 Let's turn to quinones.
00:10:41 When we first...
00:10:42 Quinones have a well-known reputation
00:10:44 for reacting in radical reactions very well.
00:10:47 And when we first looked at quinones,
00:10:49 we got rather bad yields, and I was surprised.
00:10:54 Here is the theory of what could have been going on.
00:11:00 We would add the radical to the quinone,
00:11:03 would then be quenched by a thiopyridol transfer.
00:11:08 We would get an intermediate,
00:11:10 which would eliminate the thiopyridol group,
00:11:13 if it enolizes this way,
00:11:15 we would get quinone.
00:11:17 Alternately, we could have the enolization process
00:11:20 in the other direction,
00:11:22 followed by a second enolization,
00:11:24 and then, of course, we would get the thiopyridol quinone
00:11:28 with the R substituent.
00:11:30 And in the beginning,
00:11:32 we were isolating only this kind of quinone
00:11:35 in rather small yields.
00:11:37 When we went back to look at this problem,
00:11:39 we put in an excess of the starting quinone
00:11:42 to reoxidize any substituent quinone to quinone,
00:11:45 and we looked more carefully at what we were getting,
00:11:48 and we found that the major product in the reaction
00:11:51 had been overlooked in our first run
00:11:53 through this series of compounds.
00:11:56 And so, what we were really getting
00:11:58 was the thiopyridol derivative
00:12:02 in really quite respectable yields,
00:12:04 70-80% yield.
00:12:06 And what we had been isolating before in bad yields
00:12:09 was the monosubstituent quinone
00:12:12 in about 10% yield.
00:12:14 So that's a happy story.
00:12:16 And it seems like all kinds of residues
00:12:19 can be added to quinones now
00:12:21 in a synthetically meaningful manner this way.
00:12:25 And here is the case of a monosubstituted quinone
00:12:30 with an alkyl group there.
00:12:32 And again, we can do the addition,
00:12:34 and we find the addition occurs only in this position.
00:12:38 Not in this position, and not in that position.
00:12:41 And so you get another series of reasonable yields,
00:12:44 and again, we got some of the monosubstituted quinone,
00:12:48 rather more than before.
00:12:50 Now, this thiopyridol group is also a useful group here,
00:12:54 potentially, because you can oxidize it to sulfone,
00:12:57 and you can use it in anionic chemistry then.
00:13:00 We haven't done it, but it really can be done.
00:13:05 And finally, working with the NAFSA quinones,
00:13:07 it's the same thing.
00:13:09 We can get a good yield of the bis-adduct
00:13:12 and some of the mono-adduct.
00:13:14 Here is another one with a methyl group.
00:13:17 And we got, at first, only about 50%,
00:13:22 because we didn't realize that this was rather stable
00:13:25 and was eliminating slowly during chromatography.
00:13:28 But the real yield is quite reasonable.
00:13:31 And this is a sterically hindered one
00:13:33 where the addition occurred all right,
00:13:35 but the second step of oxidation
00:13:38 by excessive quinone did not take place
00:13:40 and we isolated the hydroquinone.
00:13:42 But that's a minor complication.
00:13:47 Now, we have also studied the addition of radicals
00:13:50 to very electropositive olefins,
00:13:55 like nitroethylene, sulfonylderapenylsulfonylethylene,
00:14:00 propylene, and so on.
00:14:02 And these reactions go very well.
00:14:05 That's rather to be expected,
00:14:06 because the radicals we're working with
00:14:08 are nucleophilic radicals.
00:14:09 They're very fond of electrophilic olefins.
00:14:12 And this is a short synthesis
00:14:14 of the 25-hydroxycholesterol side-chip,
00:14:19 which is important in the vitamin D3 field.
00:14:23 So what we do is take a bile acid,
00:14:25 we make the standard derivative,
00:14:27 let it add to the nitropropylene,
00:14:31 and you get this intermediate, which is not isolated,
00:14:33 was immediately reduced by titanium trichloride
00:14:36 to generate the keto.
00:14:38 We expected this reaction to occur,
00:14:40 and it does, in very good yield.
00:14:42 And then you have only one step to make the derivative.
00:14:44 You'll ask me why did we do it with a keto group here,
00:14:47 which, of course, is not effective,
00:14:48 because it's a very hindered position.
00:14:50 I will answer, because we happen to have a bottle
00:14:52 in the laboratory, which was given to us
00:14:54 by Rousseau-Nuclaf.
00:14:56 But we have repeated this synthesis since
00:14:58 without the 11-keto group,
00:15:00 and we've gone right through to the end
00:15:03 putting a dienone group here,
00:15:05 no keto, dienone here,
00:15:07 and we get a very satisfactory synthesis of that, too.
00:15:11 And that's a biologically significant compound.
00:15:16 Now, we can also add radicals
00:15:19 to protonated aromatics of any kind.
00:15:21 Protonated pyridines, for example.
00:15:23 It's known you can add radicals to them.
00:15:25 Professor Minishi, for example,
00:15:27 is an expert in that area.
00:15:29 And we're just making our radicals a different way.
00:15:32 Because our intermediate esters
00:15:34 are compatible with protons, with acid.
00:15:36 You can add acid at low temperatures,
00:15:38 and they do not hydrolyze.
00:15:40 So this gives another dimension to what you can do.
00:15:43 And here are three examples
00:15:45 from pyridine chemistry,
00:15:47 in good yield.
00:15:49 And here is some more chemistry
00:15:51 in which we're dealing now
00:15:53 with other protonated,
00:15:55 protonatable heterocycles,
00:15:57 which we got,
00:15:59 this is adding the adamantyl radical.
00:16:01 The yield is not perfect,
00:16:03 but the chemistry is interesting.
00:16:05 And this is the thiazole
00:16:07 that you have in vitamin B1 chemistry,
00:16:09 and that puts an adamantyl radical there.
00:16:11 Why adamantyl?
00:16:13 Well, because that's supposed to be
00:16:15 one of the more difficult ones to do
00:16:17 because it's hysterically hindered.
00:16:19 And secondly, I know of some
00:16:21 very interesting surprises in biology
00:16:23 when you put adamantyl groups
00:16:25 into the compounds.
00:16:27 And then, here is a couple
00:16:29 of examples from
00:16:31 nucleoside field.
00:16:33 Here in the bottom here is adenine,
00:16:35 which puts the adamantyl group
00:16:37 into this position.
00:16:39 And here is caffeine on the top,
00:16:41 which puts the adamantyl radical here,
00:16:43 or the cyclohexyl radical,
00:16:45 in less satisfactory yield
00:16:47 in this position.
00:16:49 And that means then we started manipulating
00:16:51 nucleosides. You want to do nucleoside,
00:16:53 nucleotide chemistry,
00:16:55 with this kind of
00:16:57 radical-generating system, you can do it.
00:16:59 Nothing to stop you.
00:17:03 Now, again, back to
00:17:05 Professor Newcomb. He has been now
00:17:07 again measuring rate constants
00:17:09 and Hoynius functions for
00:17:11 the octyl derivative.
00:17:13 If you look in the
00:17:15 literature, you will find this paper.
00:17:17 It's now published.
00:17:19 And, more significantly,
00:17:21 he's been looking again
00:17:23 at compounds as radical precursors
00:17:25 in kinetic studies.
00:17:27 This is again back to physical organic chemistry.
00:17:29 And the kind of results
00:17:31 he's got is shown here.
00:17:33 This is the same sort of thing as before.
00:17:35 This one is one where we study
00:17:37 whether it's going to be quenched
00:17:39 or whether it's going to rearrange.
00:17:41 This is a radical which is well known to rearrange
00:17:43 through a cyclopropane,
00:17:45 and you know the rate of that reaction,
00:17:47 so you can calculate the rates of the other reactions,
00:17:49 knowing how much product you get.
00:17:51 So they're pleased about that.
00:17:53 Here's another one. This is the famous
00:17:55 case where the radical
00:17:57 cyclizes onto the double bond.
00:17:59 This is used as a test by everybody
00:18:01 for radical chemistry, though it's not
00:18:03 100% certain. And, again, you know
00:18:05 the rate of the cyclization, so
00:18:07 you can measure this rate
00:18:09 or this rate. If you know this rate,
00:18:11 you can measure the other one.
00:18:13 And it's just standard
00:18:15 kinetics.
00:18:17 Now, this is what I want to show you.
00:18:19 This is really what I'm coming up to.
00:18:21 This is not the last slide,
00:18:23 but it's nearly the last slide,
00:18:25 and it shows you Professor
00:18:27 Newcomb's opinions about
00:18:29 our kind of compounds.
00:18:31 And he says
00:18:33 that they should have widespread
00:18:35 applications, since in many cases
00:18:37 the reagents are superior to the
00:18:39 corresponding alkyl halides as radical
00:18:41 sources. So this is what
00:18:43 he's saying about making radicals
00:18:45 with this method.
00:18:47 I agree with him.
00:18:49 But he doesn't say that
00:18:51 it's also very useful in preparative
00:18:53 chemistry, and I hope that I have
00:18:55 been able to show you that
00:18:57 today.
00:18:59 Now, one final thing is
00:19:01 that we can do this chemistry at any
00:19:03 temperature. You're not confined
00:19:05 to room temperature. You're not
00:19:07 going to have to heat anything. You can
00:19:09 go down to minus 80, if you like.
00:19:11 And this brings you into another dimension
00:19:13 where there are no radical chains.
00:19:15 You're just making radicals.
00:19:17 And when you're just making radicals, then
00:19:19 their primary radicals, they
00:19:21 dimerize. And so
00:19:23 here are the results we got at
00:19:25 minus 64 degrees, where
00:19:27 the major product from the reaction is the
00:19:29 dimer. And the
00:19:31 chain, radical chain product,
00:19:33 which is probably not made by a radical
00:19:35 chain now, is the minor product.
00:19:37 So this gives you then
00:19:39 a feeling of
00:19:41 how this thing can be varied
00:19:43 over a tremendous temperature range.
00:19:45 And of course, lowering the
00:19:47 temperature may well bring us to another kind
00:19:49 of useful chemistry that we haven't yet
00:19:51 explored. Of course, this
00:19:53 work is not done without
00:19:55 I should
00:19:57 say devoted collaborators, in some
00:19:59 cases, who seem to enjoy
00:20:01 it, if they
00:20:03 write me nice letters about it.
00:20:05 To this list, I should
00:20:07 this was a
00:20:09 pioneer here, David Kreitz, who
00:20:11 started off with
00:20:13 a thiopyridone after some preliminary
00:20:15 experiments with other things.
00:20:17 And these are two good post-docs
00:20:19 from Germany who worked on the problem.
00:20:21 And here is a Frenchman who just
00:20:23 finished his thesis, a very able young man.
00:20:25 Here are the two ladies who did all the
00:20:27 peptide chemistry.
00:20:29 There is Brigitte Lecher, whose name
00:20:31 I don't have on there, but who did the
00:20:33 fluorine chemistry. And Jean Guillaume,
00:20:35 who was responsible for the
00:20:37 X-ray crystallography. And finally,
00:20:39 these three people there, they're
00:20:41 the people who helped
00:20:43 me to look at the others working.
00:20:45 They're lookers like myself, observers.
00:20:47 And Dr. Motherwell,
00:20:49 who started with me in GIF.
00:20:51 And Samir Zard, who has been with me
00:20:53 in the last three or four years in this role.
00:20:55 And then, of course, Professor Potier,
00:20:57 who was the co-director of our institute
00:20:59 in GIF, where all this work was done.
00:21:01 And who helped me a great deal, particularly
00:21:03 in the peptide work, because he
00:21:05 knows about peptides and what's worth doing.
00:21:07 Now, I've got
00:21:09 one final thing to say.
00:21:11 And that is that I received a letter
00:21:13 from the American Chemical Society.
00:21:15 And
00:21:17 they say in this letter
00:21:21 the comments of our senior
00:21:23 chemical statesman
00:21:25 and established eminent chemist
00:21:27 program. Now, I am
00:21:29 possibly an eminent
00:21:31 chemist. I am certainly
00:21:33 not a chemical statesman. I deny
00:21:35 the insult which is contained in this letter
00:21:37 in saying that I'm a statesman
00:21:39 because a statesman is someone
00:21:41 who gives you advice, but is
00:21:43 incapable of doing it.
00:21:45 Doing what he says.
00:21:49 And finally, I have just one photograph.
00:21:51 The photograph of Sam Zard
00:21:53 and Dr. Togo. That's Dr.
00:21:55 Togo in the front, who did a lot of work
00:21:57 on protonated heterocyclic
00:21:59 compounds and radical reactions.
00:22:01 And that's Sam Zard, who's a very able young man
00:22:03 now at the Ecole Polytechnique
00:22:05 and with whom we are continuing a certain
00:22:07 amount of collaboration. So I thank my
00:22:09 colleagues very much for making this talk possible
00:22:11 and I thank you for your patience
00:22:13 and staying until the end.
00:22:15 Thank you.
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